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Title: Coercive massage business and red light industry see the link below


An idea of innovative policy, progressive thoughts and better management must pop up in the mind of policy makers/politicians to creat an environment where well off people should share resources with poorest and deprived population. If policy people/politicians do not plan or manage provision of jobs to them, then the hungry people can discover their own way of living what could be more destructive to others than ever anticipated.

This is high time for intellectuals to advocate the need of legalizing red light area by any name such as "Arts and Cultural Exchange Industry etc" with all necessary arrangement including regular heatlh screening and health awareness education in order to make this profession safe, secure and dignified in the society rather than leaving it illegal, coercive and unsafe in health and legal perspectives.

What is the social benefits or economic benefits of grabbing out the girls from the "Message centers" and throwing them into the custody what we hear in regular news when you have no alternative source of income????

The article given below, may be real or fictitious but represents the growing social problems, what happens in Nepal and which shows no signs of regression. So called social values, norms, social idealism, moreover political prestige would not allow poltical leaders to make such a practical and bold decision of institutionlizing red light industry legally.

Moreover, Hindu relious mind may not agree but even in the old days, during the period of the King of the heaven, Indra, Parees etc used to run such industry according to the Hindu mythology. It seems that it is the oldest industry in the history, then why not today?
Krishna K Rai/Kirati
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premraine

Few more things

Date Wednesday, February 27th 2008, 2:06 PM

Majority of prostitutes in third world countries are sold into prostitution against their wish by callous criminals.Many of these girls or young women are uneducated,poor,naive and are from rural or indigenous background.In the context of Nepal or India,many are from poor dalit background.

In developed countries,drug addiction plays a major role(in some cases upto 96% are addicts).Addict girls / women sell their bodies for money to support their addiction.Many pimps corrupt and encourage drug abuse in their future preys.

The other extremely important factors are women from broken family or who have been sexually abused as a child are more likely to chose this profession because of their damaged psychology.

Of course,materialism encourages it .you need money to buy clothes,jewellery etc.,and if you can not get it in a decent way earn it anyway.(this applies to pimps and mistresses/madams as well)

Loss of or lack of faith in religion , spiritualism or morality is another important factor(this applies to pimps and mistresses as well).

As mentioned earlier many prostitutes are of low IQ and get caught into a very dependent(even abusive )relationships with their pimps.

Minority of prostitutes in developed countries and even in the cities in the third world countries may be intelligent and even well educated.They chose it deliberately for the sake of money.Here we are talking about morally corrupt and psychologically bankrupt / damaged women(they may become brothel keepers as well)

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Whore house--further inputs

Date Tuesday, February 26th 2008, 10:57 AM

I fully agree with the intellectual opinion expressed by Kirati friends in this blog. We have to condemn the exploitations whatsoever it be. Many innocent village girls might been exploited even by law enforcement personnel due to lack of legal explanation of fornication that naturally takes place in their daily life. As far as the commericial sex industry is concern, It does not matter you legalise it or not, it will continue to flurish in the world until the human being exist in the world. People prefer to have summer holidays in Thialand than in Saudi Arabia. My concern is that the health consequences of illegal acts are more dangerous to the communities than that of egal acts.

In the same topic, a renowned scholar Mr. Amrit Ratna Tuladhar from Kathmandu, further adds to his previous view by an email. It reads like this ---
"All men were born equal in the eyes of God irrespective of caste, creed, race, color, gender. As such there are no slaves in this world of today. Let us compete with the other developed countries than always remain under-developed. Visiting a brothel is helping the poor and in return fetch some sexual satisfaction the natural way. None ought to get nosy on the personal relation existing between a boyfriend and a girlfriend. Or more accurately never charge the innocent love birds. You can have sex provided the opposite partner is purely your future spouse --- husband or wife. In other words pre-marital copulation is neither sinful nor immoral at all provided a sharp eye is kept upon each other's health and high precaution taken towards any reasonable contraceptive. It is but a personal understanding between the two. In other words you never call fornication any adultery presumed to be punishable. Emperors and kings were never free from any supplementary pleasure like sex. You have heard of American presidents caught for sex scandal. It is in fact the greatest pleasure on earth for the double figures. Thus the establishment of a private whore-house isn't heinous at all. However a brothel service ought to operate in secret, not open to the public and away from children. Child exploitation ought to face a capital punishment of course. I am against it totally. An advanced nation like Great Britain has red lamp districts around for sure. In the mean time we don't encourage others in general to visit a bar, dance restaurant, massage parlor, discotheque, casino, etc. as well. None of our business, you see. Just feel yourself fully satisfied. Ruin not others who wish to abide by the moral law. Evidently we are aware that Nepalese women are less sociable. Hence our society needs to seek rapid progress after all".

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tagera

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Date Tuesday, February 26th 2008, 7:11 AM

this topic is the most imporant for all nation. the problem of illegle sex work is every where. some country has legallised but some oppose in such matter. in nepal i think its not yet right time to legalised such practice but should search for alternatives. we dont want our country like thailand where prostitution is a major income source of the government.
although if we legalised prostitution it wont solve the social problems. the owner will get more and the workers get less. its everywhere. there will be more exploitation of women. and many will find it easy option for the earnings.

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Is that what a government do and we agree??

Date Tuesday, February 26th 2008, 4:28 AM

There are always a lot of ways to survive in this world. This may be a method but shouldn't we try for some bettr opportunities than going into it? why can't the government give proper education and jobs to it's people? due to lack of policy and shouldn't we be the member of the policy making we need to fight up to that limits.
Whatever you all have shown is the example of the developed countries where sex is just a act like a daily routine. This culture has been exploited in our society too. You can look at the modern day college students who goes to bar, night clubs and have drugs,sex themshelves. this is due to lack of policy so we have need those policies that will enrich our brains not poison it with the luxuries of the modern world such as drugs, sex and crimes.

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premraine

Please differentiate between sex and prostitution

Date Monday, February 25th 2008, 12:13 PM

Dr Uncle,you are right in saying that people should be allowed to enjoy physical relationship / sex.Fery few would preach celibacy in this world.

I do not think Lord Krishna paid for sex he had.

I also agree with you that prostitution has exsisted for thousands of years,and we must do try and control sexually transmitted diseases like AIDS,syphilis etc.

What I do not agree is it should be legalised.For two reasons,

1.Legalisation would encourage it.

2.It is exploitation in majority of cases,few intelligent women who lack morality may do it for money BUT majority of prostitutes are poor,uneducated,of low IQ,drug and alcohol addicts and extremely vulnerable.Most are exploited by callous pimps or their mistresses.

If you look at this problem globally e.g.Thailand,India etc. many victims have been indigenous innocent village girls and women.

Also,even the most modern and progressive scandinavian country like sweden ,where sex is not at all a taboo,decided to ban it with good result.On the other hand,another modern democracy New zealand decided to legalise it,which encouraged young under age girls to join the profession with all its negative results.

Few words on the root cause of prostitution,

Combination of Low I Q, lack of awareness,poverty,lack of morality,materialism and money mindedness,loss of deeper or spiritual values,drug and alcohol addiction - in the victims-Plus callous psychopathic pimps or mistresses for whom money is everything or money could buy them drugs or gold/diamonds.

I would request anybody to seek sexual pleasure in a healthy,honest,consenting and non-exploitative relationship.

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Another intellectual comment "THE RESPECT

Date Sunday, February 24th 2008, 8:18 AM

"I understand your top sympathy towards an innocent prostitute. Man needs woman and the vice-versa. It is a natural phenomena which cannot be avoided at all. And I don't think fornication is against any religion. Lord Krishna was the horniest Hindu God that ever lived in South Asia --- had thousands of flames (girl friends) who were all forest maids plus milk maids. Yet no shame on him at all and all Hindus regard him as a Lord. Radha was an officially married deity spouse according to their tradition. The ones who need lustful copulation the most in the world include the cops and the army. Thus there is no sense in putting the prostitute and the partner under any arrest. In America they have an old saying which goes: "No money, no honey." There are times when priests and monks too cannot keep up to their chastity and celibacy. What to talk of the mild laymen ? Sexual contact as an adult game has always been a sheer want at all periods. It is called life ! An act of rape is heavily sinful of course and is punishable to a certain extent. No one can go against the desire of another. A mutually agreed physical contact between two partners is but a pure human understanding. No one should object it at all. In other words no need to envy another's personal relation. Jealousy is heinous rather for hurting the feelings of another individual. As such according to your right decision and with the arrival of the new republican democracy, prostitution ought to be legalized in Nepal as well. The influx of sex tourists has never seemed to diminish either. A slight hint was given during the Panchayat Era as to issuing authorized licenses to all registered prostitutes with frequent medical check-ups so as not to communicate any venereal disease to the opposite gender. The Health Ministry and the Home Ministry never had a strong coordination. And the talk just failed in a disgusting manner. The concerned authority is highly obliged to imitate the entertainment law of a developed state than constantly remain conservative. Or more accurately prostitution is no vice. It is absolutely true that the sexual partners have no right to infect each other. Be aware of STD (Sexually Transmitted Disease). Let the whole world be sanitation conscious and hope all citizens remain free from any formidable disease like HIV plus AIDS. Encourage the international scientists to invent a sheer cure for AIDS plus HIV. Enjoy while alive. A commercial pilot falling in love with an air hostess, a doctor falling in love with a nurse, etc. are not uncommon scenes you see. This later leads to a lawful love marriage indeed. Prostitution is obviously meant for the bachelors. In sensible countries the male partner gets paid for an act of sexual intercourse. They honor the male figure for providing sexual satisfaction. I trust that free sex is also part of human rights. Sex industry is a broad minded business that existed before Christ and it shall never fade away. All should respect a prostitute as she is the one who virtually offers sexual satisfaction to the needy. Prostitution will control any unnecessary rapes and other forceful acts creeping around against the society. I would never mock or scorn a prostitute though I never visit any brothel myself. She is also a civilized person. thus pity her, please. Why not pen an article yourself for the decent respect a harlot deserves in due time"-Mr. Tuladhar, Kathmandu, Nepal.

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premraine

Exploitation of women

Date Sunday, February 24th 2008, 6:41 AM

Poor,less intelligent(many with very low IQ),mostly drug or alcohol addicts women,many with history of abuse during childhood become prostitutes.Most are either fooled or forced by callous psychopaths into this exploitation.

Making the profession legal may help few women,but it would also encourage it to flourish i.e. increase which would not be the right thing for women and society.

It is fundamentally wrong and inhumane to exploit vulnerable women in any form.

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Recent BBC article

Date Sunday, February 24th 2008, 6:27 AM

In December, Women's Minister Harriet Harman said paying for sex should be made illegal.

The argument is that if you stamp out demand, then you will stamp out the trade. But is it possible to legislate the oldest profession out of existence?

One country that has tried is Sweden.

In 1999 Sweden outlawed paying for sex. Anyone who is caught is liable for a fine or a six-month prison sentence.

The Swedish government says there has been a decrease in street prostitution, kerb crawling and the number of women entering the trade.

'Strong message'

Karin Karlsbro, of Sweden's Ministry of Integration and Gender Equality, said: "If you have no-one who wants to buy something, there will be no market for it."

But she also admits there are no official statistics on the number of sex workers in Sweden.

What is clear is that the country is sending out a strong message about the type of society it aspires to be.

Ms Karlsbro said: "The law marks Sweden's attitude towards prostitution. Prostitution is a form of exploitation of human beings."

But Pye Jakobson, a former sex worker and founding member of Sex Workers and Allies in Sweden, is adamantly against the law.

[The government] created a criminal law to solve a social problem, to send a moral message that Sweden does not tolerate prostitution.

Pye Jakobson
Former sex worker

She says the criminalisation of clients has actually made sex workers' lives more dangerous.

She says that a woman working a deal on the street used to be able to assess the client before getting into his car. Now because he fears arrest, she has to get in and do the deal afterwards.

Neither, she says, does it tackle drug addiction, the main reason why women are trapped in prostitution.

Ms Jakobson said: "[The government] created a criminal law to solve a social problem, to send a moral message that Sweden does not tolerate prostitution. The intention was never to help anyone."

Does she think it is possible to end prostitution through the law? In short, no.

"That is a huge question. Then you will have to change the whole of society. First of all you will have to eliminate all lonely people," she says.

Lives 'improved'

"A lot of the people who are buying sex are like that. A lot of it is about holding someone."

One country, which has not only resigned itself to prostitution but has brought it into the legitimate economy, is New Zealand where it is legal to buy and sell sex and to run a brothel.

Catherine Healey, a former sex worker who was instrumental in changing the laws, says bringing the profession into the open has improved the lives of sex workers.

She says brothels now give contracts to their employees who are able to challenge bad practices in court.

In one case a sex worker brought her boss to court for sexual harassment.

Vocal opposition

Ms Healey says: "You walk into a brothel and instantly you see health and safety signs saying use condoms, there's no duplicity."

Both Ms Jakobson and Ms Healey say a distinction must be made between women who choose prostitution and those who are forced into it by drugs or gangs.

But there are also critics of New Zealand's system.

Gordon Copeland, an independent member of the New Zealand parliament, led opposition to the law before it was introduced in 2003.

He says there has been a steep rise in underage girls selling sex on the streets.

We'll never get there 100%, because that's human nature

Gordon Copeland
Member of New Zealand parliament

He said: "When you signal that street soliciting is OK, that it's OK to buy and sell sex on the streets, to me that was a no-brainer - you would see an increase of soliciting, and that is what has happened."

He also criticises the arrival of brothels in residential areas.

"At certain times of the night you've got a lot of cars parked in the neighbourhood and men coming and going, and that's pretty distressing."

But Mr Copeland recognises it is unrealistic to expect to wipe out prostitution altogether.

"We'll never get there 100%, because that's human nature," he said.

So what approach will we adopt in the UK?

In January, Vernon Coaker, under-secretary of state for the Home Office, launched the government review with a visit to Sweden.

It's market forces, supply and demand, and it has been since time immemorial

Flo Clucas, MP

He said no decisions had yet been made.

"We can't say we back criminalisation of clients at the present time. What we are trying to do is gather the evidence," he said.

Mr Coaker added: "Many people argue that prostitution is the oldest profession and will always be with us. That is not something we accept.

"We do not believe it is inevitable and we are committed to doing all we can to reduce street prostitution and all forms of sexual exploitation - whether that be through legislation or other measures, such as awareness raising."

There have already been a number of experiments with alternative ways of managing prostitution in this country.

Liberal Democrat councillor Flo Clucas was at the centre of failed plans to introduce a managed zone in Liverpool.

She says that 96% of the women working the streets of the city are drug addicts and that while there is addiction and demand there will always be prostitution.

She said: "People will do anything to get hold of that stuff, they will do anything, they really will.

"It's market forces, supply and demand, and it has been since time immemorial."

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