Feb. 9th 04:45 PM 451 10

Feb. 9th 04:55 PM

Nepal is known in the world by the world’s most fearless brave Gurkha.

Gurkha motto: “Better to die rather than live coward”

Gurkha war cry: “Ayo Gurkhali”

British Admire Gurkha: “Bravest of the brave, most generous of the generous, never had country more faithful friends than you”.

Feb. 9th 05:49 PM

Nepal is known in the world by the world’s most fearless brave Gurkha.

Gurkha motto: “Better to die rather than live coward”

Gurkha war cry: “Ayo Gurkhali”

British Admire Gurkha: “Bravest of the brave, most generous of the generous, never had country more faithful friends than you”.

Feb. 10th 01:32 AM

This is a great news to hear that the royal family of Britain are training with the GURKHAS. But what ever the points that you have explained above about Gurkhas clearly indicates that they are better slave than rulers so because of that we were slaves for 200 years and now the modern form of Lahure better known as "Gurkhas" are the sophiticated form of the slave with sophistecated facility in which our people has indulged themshelves thus thinking that is the greatness of the rules who has ruled us for 200 years and will suerly rule us for coming years too.

Thnk you

Feb. 10th 05:27 AM

Gurkhas have earned the reputation of being the bravest of the brave,and we should be proud of that.

I do not agree with kirat ji because Gurkhas are not sophisticated slaves.No body sold them,no body forced them to join the army.They not only choose it as a career,but excel in it.

Again,if you really care about our people,do something about our poor folks being tricked into extremely low paid and inhumane jobs in arabian deserts by DALALS and innocent women being sold into Bombay brothels by DALALS.

Feb. 10th 10:04 PM

Thank you premraine ji for your view. I agree that Gurkhas are the bravest of the brave et al. My lots of relatives are Lahure so I am not presenting my points to say that they are not good but I want to make it clear that though it is a way to get good career and better life to whose hands are we putting our lives. Aren't they the capitalists who have ruled almost all over the world. We remember the war of Burma and Falkland as our brave history but it is still a nightmare for the people who has to face it. Our people were just working for British and what for they killed those people there? Do you think Gurkhas are well respected all over then we might be wrong at times?

The word slave I have used is to show the analogy. To be a slave you have to be sold is it? Hasn't the government sold us to kil and to be killed for others? Haven't the Brithish brought our souls? It is the way of our manipulation. The word sophisticated is to define the modern day lahure who is getting every facility they deserve which their forerunners did not get. They have impriosoned themshelves in the world of British, slowly they are forgetting that they are Nepali. This will surely hit their mind when the condition like Bhutan prevails there someday. Let's not hope that but be prepared for the worst.

Those who are going to the deserts of Arab I feel sorry for them that they are not choosing the good agency to go there. They know that they are being exploited but still they want to go there. The Lahure factor comes here too you just think how that encourages people to go there?

About Innocent womens being sold this is a cosmopoliton problem. This is due to lack of proper education. So I am unable to do anything for it now.There are certain society channels whith whom we need to work in hand in hand to abolish this from our as well as others society. But what about the brave British force can't they share some of their bravery to enlighten the people of their community to stop this wretched thing. No they won't because they want a secure life, beautiful wife and do any kind of work to live in the developed world like UK. So in my view they are sophisticated but enslaved with the society present there.

I hope this will be read by a lot of Lahures and their relatives don't take this as just criticism but please think and rethink for once are you or any other who is leaving the country is doing good? And we expect other to do the work for us? Why can't we do it ? Because we are stuck in the money value of this world.

This platform has been provided to us for a group discussion and we have to learn and implement lots of things through this discussion too not just give our view and keep quite.

Revolution always won't start with a bullet but the media carries it to the highest point. So people be alert be critical be analytical and be thinkable not just a dumb viewer.
Thank you

Feb. 11th 06:22 PM

Just be careful when you pick the word and use it.

Yes, we respect your democratic freedom of speech here. But if we use a word associate and for comparison with “gurkha solider” and “Slave”, it will hurt to all kirat and indigenous people one way or other way. There is no happy face, if anybody happy that we be either an illiterate, poor and aware person of this matter. If you are belong to kirat blood, this matter hurt you sooner or later. You and we can not escape from it. Maybe your father was not get a chance in British gurkha, but definitely your uncles, brothers, cosines or any relatives serve British Gurkha.

It is like we should not compare with…..

Truck driver with Pilot.
Dhami, Jhakri with Medical Doctors.
Sikermi, Dakermi with Engineers.
Chor with Intelligence service Spy.

Because they are too different like Earth and Sky.

Watch out "We should not throw any stone... when we are living in same Glass house"

Feb. 11th 06:26 PM

some typo error...

Just be careful when you pick the word and use it.

Yes, we respect your democratic freedom of speech here. But if we use a word associate and for comparison with “gurkha solider” and “Slave”, it will hurt to all kirat and indigenous people one way or other way. There is no happy face. If anybody happy that would be either an illiterate, poor and un-aware person of this matter. If you are belong to kirat blood, sooner or later this matter hurt to you, too. You and we can not escape or ignore from it. Maybe your father was not get a chance in British gurkha, but definitely your uncles, brothers, cosines or any relatives serve British Gurkha.

It is like we should not compare with…..

Truck driver with Pilot.
Dhami, Jhakri with Medical Doctors.
Sikermi, Dakermi with Engineers.
Chor with Intelligence service Spy.

Because they are too different like Earth and Sky.

Feb. 12th 05:03 AM

the kirat ji..i have seen ur article so far and found that u are the exterme critis of the lahure culture. yes i do respect ur views coz thats wat u feel. u see our young people are jjoining in the army for the money. they sell themsleves to the protection of others country wen our nation itself is in need of heavy manpower. ready to kill and to be killed. settling in foreign country and forgeting our root. being sophisticated. but wat can we do if we stay back in nepal wid no opportiunity?...wat are the alternatives?..we will waste our time doing nothing...like most of the people back in nepal. one way or other lahure are contributing for the nation too. dont think from the negative perspectives all the time. think wat would be the situation of our people if we were not be in the lahure. still this time our condition is not good enough.
and obviously business man want his childrens b in the business and same to lahure parents. but it will stop sooner or later coz there are many people inthe army who doenst want to be but unfortunately they have to coz of financial matter. and since they have seen the lahure world ...many peole, including me, doesnt want our children to be in the army. the situation will change itself coz our people are becoming more aware and fighting for their rights.
but as srijana said please do not compare wid other profession. at least we have respect and we deserve it.
thank you \\

Feb. 12th 03:08 PM

The Lahure /Gurkha issue has become quite controversial lately. When we thought that it had died down it reemerges and cries out with recharged resentment and more venom.

Do not look at this issue with a jaundiced eye. It is not nice to be too resentful of things that you do not like, do not have or couldn't get. Too much resentment can be stressful and harmful to our health.

It seems that there are people who have an axe to grind against the Lahures. Whatever that is making them think so is eating into them. This benefits no one. The sooner they come to term with themselves regarding this matter the better for all of us.

I think that we leave the Lahures alone to do their job which they are doing splendidly. People all over the world know about the Gurkhas. They look at the Gurkhas with awe, admiration and respect.

It is strange while others acknowledge, appreciate and applaud our Gurkhas some of our own denounce, depreciate and degrade them.

The application of the word slave to this fine class of people is inaccurate, insensitive, undeserving and hurtful. It is sad and unfortunate that such a word is used against our own by our own. Lahures are caring responsible sons who are putting their lives in line to feed and care for their old parents, brothers, sisters and children and trying to give them a better life.

They are paid for what they do. What they do is demanding and dangerous. They are paid well but not so well that they can take care of everyone's problem.

These brave men are serving their own and not anybody. Their loyalty has always been for their families and will always be, and not to a king/queen or any nation. They are not slaves. They went in there on their own free will, signed a contract to do a job, which they do with commitment and professionalism. They can leave any time they want to. No body can stop them from doing that. This is not slavery.

They joined up knowing fully well that they could die in order that their loved ones and those who put their trusts on them would live and carry on. It takes compelling circumstances, hard decision and gut courage to do that. They didn’t become lahures for the fun of it.

Agreed not all of them are angles - some forget their past and make mistakes. But, this is how we learn - by our mistakes and experiences. We must remember that most of them are young people entering adulthood and experiencing new life. It is unfair for us to crucify them for a little bit of fun every now on then. After all they didn’t join a religious order to become monks.

Lahures of today are better educated than their forefathers. They go through a series of grueling selection tests before they made the grade to become Gurkhas. These are no run of the mill products. The Gurkhas are resources. They are assets that will play a significant role for us Kirats in the future. We must trust the modern Gurkhas to do better than their ancestors. Give them more time. They‘ve just started.
Yet again this beautiful and poignant tribute to the Gurkhas by a grateful gentleman fighter Sir Ralph Lilley Turner MC who served with the Gurkhas (1915-1922). He fought with the Gurkhas during the First World War. The quote speaks volume about what stuff the Gurkhas are made of and what they do.

“ As I write these last words, my thoughts return to you who were my comrades, the stubborn and indomitable peasants of Nepal. Once more I hear the laughter with which you greeted every hardship. Once more I see you in your bivouacs or about your fires, on forced march or in the trenches, now shivering with wet and cold, now scorched by a pitiless and burning sun. Uncomplaining you endure hunger and thirst and wounds; and at the last your unwavering lines disappear into the smoke and wrath of battle. Bravest of the brave, most generous of the generous, never had country more faithful friends than you.


”
I salute you brave faithful friends.

Feb. 13th 03:33 AM

Thank you every one for your kind suggestions and I am extremely sorry to point the Gurkhas as slaves. They are quoted as the bravest of the brave by may renowned persons and we have reached into this position due to their support and exposure to the external world.

I don't hate them , I don't envy them and neither I hope anything from them personally. This was just my thought which might be somewhat unrealistic and abusive. If we are happy with this culture then we can't change it. Revolution for rights and identity might take a different turn. I must agree that most of are agreeing with this culture and someone like me cannot change that just writing few words. SO comrades stride forward towards a bright future it's in your hand and best of luck for that. But don't forget that you are the indegenous people of NEPAL.